![]() The London Transport experimental Fleetlines: XFThis page created 14th May 1999, updated 25th September 2000 by Ian Smith![]() Introduction.Daimler Fleetlines were the OTHER rear-engined buses that were being bought in large numbers by operators round the country in 1965. When London Transport ordered fifty Leyland Atlanteans for evaluation they played fair and ordered some Fleetlines as well: just eight, that would go to the Country Area for evaluation first. Part of the plan with these was to evaluate them as dual purpose vehicles, as crewed double-deckers during peak hours and as one-person-operated single deckers at off peak times. A lockable gate was incorporated to enable the top deck to be locked off, so that it would then legally be a single-decker for passenger carrying purposes. (Double decker one person operation was illegal at that time).Construction![]() Internally they were different from most other Fleetlines, in that the floor was raised, giving a second step up from the roadway. This was to ease the movement of passengers through the constriction between the front wheel arches, with the aim of allowing two-stream loading/unloading. The staircase foot was also angled towards the door with the same purpose. ![]() ![]() Preserved XF1, at Lingfield Station in 1998, during the Running Day, and at Cobham Open Day, 1998.Into serviceThe eight XFs went into service before the Atlanteans, on 15th September 1965. They were all allocated to East Grinstead (EG), where they took over from the RTs on route 424, a long wiggly route from Reigate to East Grinstead. This offered the experience of crush-loadings in the Reigate peak - hours, urban operation in East Grinstead, and rural quiet in between. They also operated journeys on the 435 and 438C. All journeys were operated with conductors.
They seemed to be performing more reliably and with better fuel figures than the XAs in London, but it was suggested that this was because of different conditions of operation (and maintenance) in the City. The scientific, and practical, approach was to do a swap. So in April 1966 the eight green buses found themselves at Highgate garage in exchange for eight XAs. It seems that the differences persisted.
Inside XF1, in preservationThey next went to Stamford Hill (SF) in mid-May 1967, again in exchange for XAs, for more engineering comparisons on the tougher streets of the East End. XF3 acquired a wider Cummins V6 engine, giving it a protruding bustle at the back.
They returned to East Grinstead after two years of London work, (all in green), having proved their superiority over the XAs, and settled down to the familiar Country routes.
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XF1 and XF3 went into preservation.
XF3 in preservation in April 2002, at Cobham Museum Open Day, and loading up at East Grinstead.Click for larger photos Photos by Ian Smith.
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