This page created 1997, updated 19th September 2022.
ex-Daimler STLs.
STL 1260-1263 (Total 4) 14STL10
This group of STLs are distinctly odd, in many ways.
Perhaps they should never have been numbered in the STL series at all,
for they had ST wheelbase chassis: 15 ft 6.5in! But to start at the beginning:
Once upon a time LT inherited a number of Daimler chassis, at 15ft 6.5in. DST 1-3 had standard ST2 bodies, while DST 5 had an inside staircase Dodson body. In 1934 the chassis from DST 1-3 and 5 were deemed non-standard, but not the bodies. They were only a few years old, and were taken off and stored on trestles. The Daimler chassis were sold. Four new chassis were required. Obviously (?) the four now ordered, that were used for the Country Area extras would not do: they were to standard STL wheelbase and frame length. (Or did someone NOT find it obvious???) So another four were ordered, to the shorter ST wheelbase, with nearside fuel tanks to suit the ST2 bodies. (The Dodson body was designed for an offside fuel tank - but that was just a minor inconvenience.) They were designated as STLs rather than STs because all the transmission and brakes were to STL standards, and they had oil engines. ST2 bodies on shortened STL chassis: STL 1260/1/3.
So DST1-3 became STLs 1260, 1261 and 1263, while just to continue the oddity of the saga,
DST5 became STL 1262. This was not even the delivery order: STL 1262 was the last to emerge,
probably because the body had to be altered to suit the nearside fuel tank!
All received the same code: 14STL10, despite having two distinctly different body styles. They were set to work at Tottenham (AR), but later moved to Cricklewood (W) for route 16. But that was not the end of the story: in 1944 the real oddity, STL1262,
was wrecked by a flying bomb, but the chassis survived.
It was fitted with a spare ST2 body, with an STL type cab!
Later still, in 1947, the chassis frame was discarded,
but all the running units were fitted to a standard length frame.
This half-new chassis, still STL 1262,
was fitted with a standard roofbox body (with offside fuel tank, of course!).
It survived another 5 years.
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Summary:
STL1260 CLE 33 5/36 new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613715
s/h ST body 12079 from DST3, 14STL10
5/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
AR used on 76 to Edmonton Stn
8/40 F transfer (Putney Bridge)
10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
11/41 W transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
6/49 AD as SRT replacement (Palmers Green)
EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
1/50 used on 140
1/50 EW withdrawn into store, still body 12079, 14STL10
1/50 sold to Daniels (Rainham) for scrap
STL1261 CLE 39 5/36 new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613716
5/36 s/h ST body 12080 from DST2, 14STL10
6/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
AR used on 76 to Edmonton
8/40 F transfer (Putney Bridge)
10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
11/41 W transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
*/49 W used on 16 to Cricklewood
EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
*/49 EW used on 140 to Hayes
9/49 EW used on 140 to Northolt
9/49 EW used on 140 to Edgware
9/49 EW withdrawn from service, still body 12080, 14STL10
9/49 sold to Daniels (Rainham) for scrap
STL1262 CLE 34 5/36 new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613717
9/36 s/h Dodson body 14327 from DST5, 14STL10
9/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
4/38 overhaul: full-drop windows replaced by half-drops
4/38 U transfer (Upton Park)
*/39 AR used on 76 to Edmonton
8/40 F transfer (Putney Bridge)
10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
11/41 W transfer for 16 (Cricklewood)
5/42 W used on 16 to Cricklewood
6/44 body wrecked by V1 cruise missile,
8/44 fitted with ST2 body 12251, with STL cab: 14STL/ST2
10/44 W from o/h
5/45 W used on 16 to Cricklewood
4/46 W used on 16
2/47 body removed, chassis lengthened to standard,
2/47 roofbox STL12 body fitted: 14STL12
EW (Edgware)
2/50 CS to Chiswick overhaul
4/50 EW from o/h for 141 (Edgware)
*/50 EW used on 141 to Borehamwood,
6/50 AF transfer (Putney, Chelverton Road)
2/51 FL transfer into store (Ferry Lane)
PM used on 286 (Peckham)
NX (New Cross)
12/52 NX withdrawn from service
1/53 PM trainer
P trainer (Old Kent Road)
11/53 P withdrawn, body 17949, 14STL12
3/54 CS
4/54 sold to W.North (Leeds)
STL1263 CLE 36 4/36 new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613718
4/36 s/h ST body 12078 from DST1, 14STL10
4/36 AL first allocation (Merton)
4/36 AR transfer, for 76 (Tottenham)
AR used on 76 to Edmonton
8/40 F transfer (Putney Bridge)
10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
11/41 W transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
1946 W used on 60 to Charing Cross
1/48 EW
9/48 CS to Chiswick Works..
9/48 W ..from works
1/49 W withdrawn from service, still body 12078, 14STL10
1/49 body scrapped
2/49 chassis scrapped
Photographic references
STL1260 CLE 33 LBBW p49 AR on 76 to Edmonton Stn
STL p59 193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Lower Edmonton
STL p136 1950 EW on 140 to Edgware
STL 1261 CLE 39 STL p59 193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Lower Edmonton
BBB7 p54 1949 W on 16 to Cricklewood from Victoria
H49 p14 1949 EW on 140 to Hayes, Mill Hill
LBF469p38 9/49 EW on 140 to Northolt
LBM89 p40 9/49 EW on 140 to Northolt
STL1262 CLE 34 LB2939 p99 1939 AR on 76 to Edmonton
STL p59 193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
LBF405p36 war AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
H3945p64 war AR on 76 to Tottenham, Victoria Stn
LBWW2 p16 war AR on 76 to Tottenham, Victoria Stn
STL p78 c1940 AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
LBM98 p48 5/42 W on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
H3945p148 war W on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
CB36 p40 war W on 16, Victoria
LBWW2 p66 war W on 16, Victoria, o/s
H3945p136 5/45 W on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
LCityB p52 W on 16 at Victoria
H46 p98 4/46 W on 16, Marble Arch
STL p109 post W on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria
STL p109 post W on 60, Trafalgar Square
STL p109 post EW on 141 to Borehamwood, roofbox
H50 p45 1950 EW on 141 to Borehamwood, STL12 roofbox
H54 p78 3/54 CS showing 286 and 86A, STL12 roofbox, rear n/s view
STL1263 CLE 36 STL p59 193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria, rear
H46 p19 1946 W on 60 to Charing Cross, Victoria Embankment
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