This page created 1997, updated 25th March 2008.

ex-Daimler STLs.

STL 1260-1263 (Total 4) 14STL10

STL 1261 drawing This group of STLs are distinctly odd, in many ways. Perhaps they should never have been numbered in the STL series at all, for they had ST wheelbase chassis: 15 ft 6.5in! But to start at the beginning:
Once upon a time LT inherited a number of Daimler chassis, at 15ft 6.5in. DST 1-3 had standard ST2 bodies, while DST 5 had an inside staircase Dodson body. In 1934 the chassis from DST 1-3 and 5 were deemed non-standard, but not the bodies. They were only a few years old, and were taken off and stored on trestles.

The Daimler chassis were sold. Four new chassis were required. Obviously (?) the four now ordered, that were used for the Country Area extras would not do: they were to standard STL wheelbase and frame length. (Or did someone NOT find it obvious???)
So another four were ordered, to the shorter ST wheelbase, with nearside fuel tanks to suit the ST2 bodies. (The Dodson body was designed for an offside fuel tank - but that was just a minor inconvenience.) They were designated as STLs rather than STs because all the transmission and brakes were to STL standards, and they had oil engines.
ST2 bodies on shortened STL chassis: STL 1260/1/3.

STL 1262 drawing So DST1-3 became STLs 1260, 1261 and 1263, while just to continue the oddity of the saga, DST5 became STL 1262. This was not even the delivery order: STL 1262 was the last to emerge, probably because the body had to be altered to suit the nearside fuel tank!
All received the same code: 14STL10, despite having two distinctly different body styles.

They were set to work at Tottenham (AR), but later moved to Cricklewood (W) for route 16.

But that was not the end of the story: in 1944 the real oddity, STL1262, was wrecked by a flying bomb, but the chassis survived. It was fitted with a spare ST2 body, with an STL type cab! Later still, in 1947, the chassis frame was discarded, but all the running units were fitted to a standard length frame. This half-new chassis, still STL 1262, was fitted with a standard roofbox body (with offside fuel tank, of course!). It survived another 5 years.
STLs 1260, 1261 and 1263, having moved in the meanwhile to Edgware (EW), lasted until 1949/50.


Summary:

 
STL1260  CLE 33  5/36    new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613715 
                         s/h ST body 12079 from DST3, 14STL10 
                 5/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
                 8/40 F  transfer (Putney Bridge)
                10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
                11/41 W  transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
                 6/49 AD as SRT replacement (Palmers Green)
                      EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
                 1/50 EW withdrawn from service, still body 12079, 14STL10
                 1/50    sold to Daniels (Rainham) for scrap

STL1261  CLE 39  5/36    new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613716 
                 5/36    s/h ST body 12080 from DST2, 14STL10 
                 6/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
                 8/40 F  transfer (Putney Bridge)
                10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
                11/41 W  transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
                 1949 W  on 16
                      EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
                 9/49 EW used on 140
                 9/49 EW withdrawn from service, still body 12080, 14STL10
                 9/49    sold to Daniels (Rainham) for scrap

STL1262  CLE 34  5/36    new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613717 
                 9/36    s/h Dodson body 14327 from DST5, 14STL10
                 9/36 AR first allocation, for 76 (Tottenham)
                 4/38    overhaul: full-drop windows replaced by half-drops
                 4/38 U  transfer (Upton Park)
                 1939 AR on 76
                 8/40 F  transfer (Putney Bridge)
                10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
                11/41 W  transfer for 16 (Cricklewood)
                 5/42 W  in use on 16
                 6/44    body wrecked by V1 cruise missile,
                 8/44    fitted with ST2 body 12251, with STL cab: 14STL/ST2
                10/44 W  from o/h
                 2/47    body removed, chassis lengthened to standard,
                 2/47    roofbox STL12 body fitted: 14STL12
                      EW transfer for 141 (Edgware)
                      PM used on 286 (Peckham)
                      NX (New Cross)
                12/52 NX withdrawn from service
                 1/53 PM trainer
                      P  trainer (Old Kent Road)
                11/53 P  withdrawn, body 17949, 14STL12
                 4/54    sold to W.North (Leeds)

STL1263  CLE 36  4/36    new, short, AEC Regent STL chassis 06613718 
                 4/36    s/h ST body 12078 from DST1, 14STL10
                 4/36 AL first allocation (Merton)
                 4/36 AR transfer, for 76 (Tottenham)
                 8/40 F  transfer (Putney Bridge)
                10/41 HD transfer (Harrow Weald)
                11/41 W  transfer, for 16 (Cricklewood)
                      EW transfer, for 140 (Edgware)
                 1/49 W  withdrawn from service, still body 12078, 14STL10
                 1/49    body scrapped
                 2/49    chassis scrapped

Photographic references

 
STL1260  CLE 33  LBBW p49         AR on 76 to Edmonton Stn
                 STL p59     193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Lower Edmonton
                 STL p136    1950 EW on 140 to Edgware

STL 1261 CLE 39  STL p59     193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Lower Edmonton
                 BBB7 p54    1949 W  on 16 to Cricklewood from Victoria
                 H49 p14     1949 EW on 140 to Hayes, Mill Hill
                 LBF469p38   9/49 EW on 140 to Northolt
                 LBM89 p40   9/49 EW on 140 to Northolt

STL1262  CLE 34  LB2939 p99  1939 AR on 76 to Edmonton
                 STL p59     193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
                 LBF405p36   war  AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
                 H3945p64    war  AR on 76 to Tottenham, Victoria Stn
                 LBWW2 p16   war  AR on 76 to Tottenham, Victoria Stn
                 STL p78   c1940  AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria
                 LBM98 p48   5/42 W  on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
                 H3945p148   war  W  on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
                 CB36 p40    war  W  on 16, Victoria
                 LBWW2 p66   war  W  on 16, Victoria, o/s
                 H3945p136   5/45 W  on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria Stn
                 LCityB p52       W  on 16 at Victoria
                 H46 p98     4/46 W  on 16, Marble Arch
                 STL p109    post W  on 16 to Cricklewood, Victoria
                 STL p109    post W  on 60, Trafalgar Square
                 STL p109    post EW on 141 to Borehamwood, roofbox
                 H50 p45     1950 EW on 141 to Borehamwood, STL12 roofbox
                 H54 p78     3/54 CS showing 286 and 86A, STL12 roofbox, rear n/s view

STL1263  CLE 36  STL p59     193* AR on 76 to Edmonton, Victoria, rear
                 H46 p19     1946 W  on 60 to Charing Cross, Victoria Embankment

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