Prepared on Notepad by Ian Smith,

This page created on 2nd September 1998, updated 3rd December.

The Coach RMs, RMC1453-RMC1520

early RMC The success of the coach prototype, CRL4, combined with growth in GreenLine travel, produced an inevitable result. London Transport, after so many times building double-decker coach prototypes, now built a whole class of them. 68 of them.
They were modified standard routemasters, 27ft 8in long, 8ft wide, with an enclosed rear platform and electric doors. This also meant having a downstairs emergency exit, which was built into the rear of the platform, like CRL4. Unlike the prototype, the exterior door handle was at a low level. Fluorescent lighting, a touch of sheer modernity for the "quality" customers, was installed.
RMC1477 The air suspension applied to a few of the early standard RMs was applied to the whole class. The same 9.8 litre AEC AV590 engine was used, but with a different gear ratio to permit higher speeds. The gearbox was semi-automatic rather than fully automatic, to reflect the smaller number of gear changes on GreenLine work. All this, plus deeper upholstery and more widely spaced seating, was designed to give a more comfortable ride. One reversion from the prototype was the return to bench seats over the rear wheel arches, in place of the diagonal bucket seats on CRL4.
RMC1477 This all pushed the licensed weight up by a half-ton, to 7tons 15 cwt., although they seated only 57 (32/25).

The exterior finish was excellent too. The original scheme tried on CRL4 was used: Lincoln green, with pale green trims around the windows and a matching cant-rail band. There were small GreenLine roundel plaques on the tween-decks panels, and a small roundel transfer above the centrally placed rear number-plate. Another touch of distinction was added by adopting the current fashion for twin headlights.

RMC1477 is beautifully preserved in original GreenLine condition, with restored offside blind and front ventilator grille, as well as the immaculate livery. (North Weald, 1998)

RMC1477

Into service

The RMCs went into service just after the trolleybus conversions finished, while red RMs were being stored during the dispute over RT replacement. Twenty (RMC1453-1472) were allocated for the 715/715A between Hertford and Guildford/Marble Arch. 12 went to Hertford garage (HG) and 8 to Guildford (GF), ready for 29th August 1962. Another two were added to the allocation during September, and RMC4 (the retitled CRL4) was added to the Hertford allocation in October.
RMC1477 (left) was originally allocated to Guildford in September 1962, for the 715. Now in preservation, it shows the early form of radiator grille, bonnet badge and ventilator grille abovethe cab. (Showbus, 1997).

RMC1469, (below), also preserved, shows the later form of each, and also the later lack of external platform handrails. (North Weald, 1998).


RMC1469 Epping (EP) was the next major receiver of the type, for the 718 (Harlow-Windsor), 720/A (Bishops Stortford / Harlow -Aldgate). Windsor (WR) also received a share for the 718. Some of these were transferred in from HG, which received new ones in exchange.
Garston (GR), the Watford garage, received eight (RMC1499-1506) in November 1962 for the 719 (Hemel Hempstead - Victoria).
The 716/A (Chertsey / Woking - Hitchin / Stevenage) was the last of the original allocations, with eight RMCs to Stevenage (SV) and nine to Addlestone (WY), again a mixture of new and used vehicles. RMC4 was returned to Stevenage, and stayed until swapped with Epping for another RMC in February 63.
These initial coach allocations also involved filling-in turns on local bus routes, a long-established practice.

Summary:
DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
8/62 715: Guildford - HertfordGF, HGRFRMC
8/62 715A: Marble Arch - HertfordHGRFRMC
10/62 718: Windsor - Harlow New TownEP, WRRFRMC
10/62 720: Aldgate - Bishops StortfordEPRFRMC
10/62 720A: Aldgate - Harlow New TownEPRFRMC
10/62 393A: Welwyn Gdn City - HarlowEPRFRMC
10/62 396: Bishops Stortford - EppingEPRFRMC
10/62 805: Potter St - Harlow - Little ParndonEPRFRMC
10/62 417: Windsor - LangleyWRRFRMC
11/62 719: Victoria - Hemel HempsteadGRRFRMC
11/62 347: Uxbridge - Hemel HempsteadGRRFRMC
11/62 716: Chertsey Bridge - HitchinWY, SVRFRMC
11/62 716A: Woking - StevenageWY, SVRFRMC
11/62 303: New Barnet - HitchinSVRFRMC
11/62 420: Woking - West ByfleetWYRFRMC
11/62 463: Walton on Thames - GuildfordWYRFRMC

The allocation at Epping was transferred to the new garage at Harlow (HA) when that opened in May 1983. Consequently the 393A ceased to be served by RMC short workings, but Harlow routes 397 and 804 benefitted.

The new buses settled down in service. They did have teething problems, different from the town RMs. In particular the air suspension was unreliable at first, and the less frequent braking meant that a different policy about dust guards had to be adopted. Pitching when running fast was also a problem, requiring suspension stiffening.

A retrograde step in appearance was the adoption of advertisements on the rear panel, from 1963, a distictbreak with GreenLine tradition.

In May 1964 RMC1469 was taken out of service to act as a guinea-pig for the appearance of the forth-coming RCLs. It received new front blind apertures, with both panels the full 3ft 6in wide. The raised bullseyes on the sides disappeared, as did the fleetnames from the lower panels. Instead there were large bullseye transfers at the front of the upper panels, with Green Line block-lettered behind it. A smaller bullseye and fleetname appeared on the offside staircase panel. More significant perhaps were the new deeper front wing panels, with no cut-outs for ventilator grilles or the spotlight. These eventually became the RM standard. RMC1469 also received the new style radiator grille with triangular badge. Another change that quickly became the norm in both red and green fleets was the casing over of the bottom half of the heater grille, with the painted band continued over it.

Network Changes

As the sixties progressed the GreenLine network suffered. A buoyant growth area for LT after the war, it competed badly against the rise of the motor car, both in direct abstraction of its target clientele and in terms of service slowing through traffic congestion. Electrification of the Eastern Region suburban services also affected the north-east services particularly badly. By November 1964 the traffic on the 720/A could no longer support the double-deckers, and these services reverted to RF operation. Four of the RMCs went to Hatfield (HF), and four to Swanley (SJ) for use on the extended 717 (Wrotham - Welwyn Garden City), on which the new leg from Victoria to Wrotham replaced that lost on the withdrawn 703.

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
11/64 720: Aldgate - Bishops StortfordHARMCRF
11/64 720A: Aldgate - Harlow New TownHARMCRF
11/64 717: Welwyn Garden City - WrothamHF, SJRFRMC
11/64 703: Amersham - WrothamMA, SJRFwithdrawn

The advent of the RCLs should not have affected the RMCs, but the best-laid plans of mice and men gang aft aglay: The RCLs proved not to be allowable on the 723B, so some of the Grays allocation went instead to Hertford for the 715A, whilst five RMCs went to Grays.

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
6/65 715A: Marble Arch - HertfordHGRMCRCL
6/65 723B: Aldgate - Tilbury FerryHARTRMC

revised RMC The external handrails were removed from the RMCs during 1966, replaced by handrails on the inside of the doors.

Overhauls during 1967 produced a simplified livery, with no window lining, and with large transfer roundels replacing the small raised ones. It was not an improvement. The overhaul round also shuffled the bodies, so that the odd one from RMC1469 reappeared on RMC1502.

Further GreenLine reductions in December 1967 saw the loss of the northern end of the 717 (HF) and the switch of the 716A from Stevenage to Hatfield. RMCs from Stevenage replaced RCLs on the 723 group at Grays. The remnant of the 717 (SJ) and the 719 (GR) lost their RMCs (replaced by RFs), which went to East Grinstead(EG) and Two Waters (HH) for the 708 (East Grinstead to Hemel Hempstead).
One RMC also became the London spare in December 1967, garaged at Riverside(R). Two other RMCs became official spares for RCL routes, at Romford and Dunton Green.

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
12/67 717: Welwyn Garden City - WrothamHFRMCpart withdrawn
12/67 716A: Woking - StevenageWY, SV to HFRMC (SV)RMC (HF)
12/67 723/A: Aldgate - Tilbury / GraysGYRCLRMC (SV)
12/67 717: Victoria - WrothamSJRMCRF
12/67 719: Victoria - Hemel HempsteadGRRMCRF
12/67 708: East Grinstead - Hemel HempsteadEG, HHRFRMC
12/67 318: East Grinstead - Hemel HempsteadHHRFRMC
12/67 334: Hemel Hempstead circularHHRFRMC
12/67 435: East Grinstead - Imberhorne EstateEGRFRMC
12/67 GreenLine London spareRRFRMC

A more serious decline in the class' fortunes occurred a year later, when the 708 went back to RF operation. There was no obvious GreenLine work for the redundant RMCs, so they moved onto bus operations. At Hatfield they replaced RTs on the long 303/A plus more local Hatfield routes. A pair went to Addlestone until the following May to work on the 461A, and then went to join others on the 370 route from Grays. In October 1969 RCLs were displaced from the 704 and went to Grays for the 723 group (again), releasing six more RMCs which were then officially allocated to bus work from Grays.

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
12/68 708: East Grinstead - Hemel HempsteadEG, HHRMCRF
12/68 303/A: New Barnet - HitchinHFRTRMC
12/68 461A: Walton on Thames - Botleys ParkWYRTRMC
5/69 461A: Walton on Thames - Botleys ParkWYRMCRT
5/69 370: Romford - Tilbury FerryGYRTRMC
10/69 723/A/B: Aldgate - Tilbury / GraysGYRMCRCL
10/69 370/A: Romford/Purfleet - Tilbury FerryGYRTRMC

London Country

All the RMCs, including RMC4, passed to London Country when it was established at the turn of the decade. A first consequence was the official allocation of the London spare (RMC1464) to Guildford, although it continued to park at Riverside when not needed.

A group of six RMCs were used as cover for the 1971 RCL overhaul programme, mainly from Hatfield "coach allocation" but including one from Addlestone. The group progressed in turn around Romford, Grays, Dunton Green, Windsor and Godstone, the RCL garages, the entire perambulation taking a year. The "bus" RMCs at Hatfield returned to GreenLine work, the 303/A reverting briefly to RT operation until Swifts took over.

But in January 1972 the Reliance RPs arrived on GreenLine duties at Romford, and Grays received RCs for the 723. It was RCLs that they displaced mainly, but with the overhaul programme completed this now resulted in eight RMCs being officially demoted to buses. The RMCs furthered the RT replacement on the 370/A routes from Grays.

RMCs directly felt the impact of the RP invasion in February and March 1972. GreenLine routes 716/A and 718 were converted, with the RMCs going to St Albans and Hemel Hempstead for the 330/A, and to Dartford for the 499. More went to Grays for the 370. Windsor and Hatfield hung on to some of theirs for bus work too:

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
1/72 723/A/B: Aldgate - Tilbury / GraysGYRMCRP
1-3/72 370/A: Romford/Purfleet - Tilbury FerryGYRTRMC
2/72 718: Windsor - Harlow New TownHA, WRRMCRP
2/72 445: Windsor - DatchetWRRTRMC
2/72 460: Staines - SloughWRRTRMC
3/72 716: Chertsey Bridge - HitchinWY, HFRMCRP
3/72 716A: Woking - StevenageWY, HFRMCRP
3/72 341/B: St Albans - South Hatfield / HertfordHFRTRMC
3/72 499: Temple Hill Estate - Dartford - Downs EstateDFRTRMC
3/72 330/A: Welwyn Garden City - Hemel HempsteadSA, HHRTRMC

The RP conversion continued in April, taking the RMCs from route 715 at Guildford and Hertford. The RMCs completed the 370 conversion at Grays. Swanley gained some for the 477 and Hertford kept some (demoted) for the 341 and other routes.
Even the London spare was removed, going to St Albans for bus duties. Windsor lost the two that it had kept before.

DateRouteGarageType displacedDisplaced by..
4/72 715: Guildford - HertfordGF, HGRMCRP
4/72 370: Romford/Purfleet - Tilbury FerryGYRTRMC
4/72 477: Dartford- Orpington - ChelsfieldSJRTRMC
4/72 341: St Albans - South HatfieldHARTRMC
4/72 London spareGF to SARMC 1464RF 164

London Country RMC All the RMCs were now officially demoted to bus work (except RMC1516 which was away being re-roofed after an accident). Three RMCs succumbed to the overall advertising fashion in 1972-4: RMC1516 at Hatfield, RMC 1490 (allocated to various garages) and RMC1480 at Dartford.

During 1973 another overhaul / re-certification round was begun on the RMCs, with some treated in garages and some at Aldenham. All received the NBC corporate livery during the two-year period, even the out-of-use RMC1509. One oddity was that some received flake grey cantrail bands instead of white (the hand of Aldenham?)

During the next four years the RMC fleet gradually spread and contracted, as London Country spent its efforts trying to iron the bugs out of its newer classes. The spares shortage that was crippling LT also affected the LC fleet, and by the autumn of 1977 meant that seven RMCs were out of use, non-runners, and up for sale. Others were in the training fleet, having been made redundant by new Leyland Nationals, that London Country was buying in large numbers to solve many of its bus problems.

Sale to London Transport

The non-runners, plus others, were bought by London Transport in December 1977, but neither company had the parts or resources available to put all the non-runners back into service. 20 RMCs were included, of which 18 were put into LT service during 1978. They went into the training fleet, often wearing NBC green with London Transport white bullseyes, until they were repainted into red.

RMC1476 RMC1476

RMC1476 has been nicely preserved in London Transport training fleet livery, sporting NBC green with white bullseyes - and brown LT wheels!

(at Showbus97 left and North Weald 98 right)


London Country's survivors struggled on, increasingly acting as spares for otherwise opo-operated routes. But eventually London Transport offered to buy ALL of London Country's remaining Routemasters (RMCS, RMLs and RCLs), except RMC4. This time the contract was for LC to put the buses in order before each exchange was completed, but something went wrong with the process, leading to a row. London Country sent some of the Routemasters to Wombwell Diesels for breaking (including three RMCs). This galvanised London Transport into fresh negotiations, which resulted in completion of the sale to LT without prior repair. The three RMCs at Wombwell were also returned.

London Country finished its Routemaster operations properly, in March 1980. On Saturday 1st March there was a final celebration and tour, covering the routes associated most strongly with the classes in their final years: the 403 (CM), 477 (DF) and 480 (NF). That should have been IT. But Swanley put RMC 1512 out on the 477 on the following Monday, before LT asserted its new rights of ownership on the Tuesday!

trainer RMC London Transport eventually put 53 RMCs into the training fleet, managing to repaint 21 of them into red before they started. One even received a green repaint! But eventually they were all repainted, the last being in May 1988! RMC1518, used on the skid patch at Chiswick, had its air-bags replaced by coil springs.

Thirteen RMCs were sold by LT in June 1981 (including two that had only gone to Aldenham to have training handbrakes fitted!). Another was sold later.

RMC Renaissance: briefly.

The RMC training fleet continued fairly uneventfully until 1987, when Forest District had RMC 1515 converted to open-top and upgraded to PSV standard for hire work and special occasions.
Also in 1987, Cardinal District had one of their trainers (RMC 1469) converted for use as a recruiting / training bus, with reception, interview and test rooms, with mains-powered heating and lighting. Externally it was painted red with yellow window surrounds / cantrail band, with silver wheels. The non-standard features of the livery received disapproval from London Buses, and it quickly reverted to standard.

Stagecoach RMC But the major event was the return to service in March 1989 by East London of first six and then another RMC. They were refurbished for passenger work, repainted in red with gold lining, and put to work on the X15 "Beckton Express", linking the new Docklands developments with Central London as a crewed commuter service. The buses used were RMC 1456, 1458, 1461, 1490, 1496, and 1513, then RMC1485 later.
Their luggage racks had all been removed, and standard 3-piece displays were fitted at the front.

Five of them, RMC 1456, 1461, 1485 1490 and 1513 survived through to the privatisation of London Buses in September 1994. RMC1461 was overhauled and restored to full early GreenLine condition, ready for the Routemaster 40 celebrations in September 1994. It retains the livery (including fleetnames) in Stagecoach ownership, appearing sometimes on route 15.
RMC1456 retains the red and gold Beckton Express livery, with Stagecoach logo, and RMC 1485 has the same style but with cream lining. RMC1490 forms part of the Stagecoach preserved fleet in Scotland. RMC1513 had been transferred to Metroline, and was privatised with that company.

RMC1485 RMC1485 RMC1456

Still in service with Stagecoach East London:
RMC1485 at North Weald 1998 (left and centre), RMC1456 in a rain-storm at Brooklands, June 1998(right)

RMC1462 at Showbus 98

Survivors

A significant number of the class survives. Some are still in London service, with Stagecoach East London or Nostalgiabus, while others are preserved or put to other uses.
RMC1462 still earns its preservation and certificates of fitness by working for Nostalgiabus. RMC 1469, alongside it at Showbus 98 is in preservation.


 RMC 4     SLT 59   preserved, PSV,   Arriva London & Country, Green Line
 RMC 1453  453 CLT  private hire PSV, Arriva East Herts & Essex, red
 RMC 1456  LFF 875  service PSV,      Stagecoach East London, red/gold
 RMC 1458  115WX29                    Quimper, France
 RMC 1459  459 CLT                    preserved, NBC green livery
 RMC 1461  461 CLT  service PSV,      Stagecoach East London, Green Line
 RMC 1462  462 CLT  hire PSV,         Nostalgiabus, red/cream livery
 RMC 1464  464 CLT  service PSV,      Arriva East Herts & Essex, open top, Iveco
 RMC 1469  469 CLT  active            preserved, Green Line livery
 RMC 1474                             preserved, red livery
 RMC 1476  476 CLT  active            preserved, NBC green, LT white bullseyes
 RMC 1477  477 CLT  active            preserved, Green Line livery
 RMC 1480  PBA541                     promo vehicle, Sweden
 RMC 1481                             open-top, Bremerhaven, Germany
 RMC 1485  485 CLT  service PSV,      Stagecoach East London, red/cream
 RMC 1486  KVS276                     Germany
 RMC 1487  487 CLT                    preserved, undergoing restoration
 RMC 1488                             promo vehicle, Paris
 RMC 1490  490 CLT                    preserved: used on 473 by Metrobus in blue/yellow
 RMC 1492  492 CLT  First CentreWest  trainer: oou?
 RMC 1495  495 CLT                    mobile catering bus
 RMC 1496  496 CLT                    Sexton mobile phones
 RMC 1497  497 CLT                    preserved, Green Line
 RMC 1499                             promo vehicle, Perpignan, France.
 RMC 1500  486 CLT                    preserved, London Country green/yellow
 RMC 1503  7806TL56                   Vannes, France.
 RMC 1507  507 CLT                    preserved, Green Line
 RMC 1510  510 CLT  service PSV,      First CentreWest, open top, Cummins, red
 RMC 1513  513 CLT  hire PSV,         Metroline
 RMC 1515  515 CLT                    Stagecoach, preserved, open top
 RMC 1516  516 CLT                    preserved, undergoing restoration
 RMC 1519  6005RR13                   piazza restaurant, Marseille

Other photos of RMCs can be found on the net at:
The Bus Lane, The London Bus Page, The Routemaster Owners and Operators Association,
Blickpunkt Straßenbahn (RM Photo Gallery).

Photographic references are on a separate page. So is the Fleet History.

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