The London Buses Nationals: LS

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LS98 at Cobham Open Day 1999

Part One: National Buses

LS 1-6: the trial run

London Transport was not an early convert to the Leyland National. It had just made an enormous commitment to single-decker operation in the shape of hundreds of Merlins and Swifts. These were not proving trouble-free! It was having problems too with its new fleet of Daimler Fleetlines. So it was not going to plump heavily for another untried type.


London National But LT did authorise a trial, using six dual-door short Nationals and six dual-door MS-class Metro-Scanias. The Nationals joined the Metro-Scanias at Dalston garage in November 1973 for the S2 (more famous as the 178, last haunt of the red RLH).
They were in a deep red livery, with white roofs and grey pods.

Route NoRouteGarage
S2Bromley-by-Bow - Clapton Pond - StratfordD Dalston

LS 7-57: the non-export buses

London National London Transport must have been impressed by their trial buses, but made haste slowly. It was 1976 before they had an opportunity to buy more Nationals, when an export order for 51 buses for Venezuela was cancelled. LT bought all of them, in a bid to keep its single-deck fleet running.

They were allocated to Hounslow (AV) in August 1976, where they were joined by LS1-6. They took over a broad spread of single-decker routes from SMS class Swifts, which were then redistributed round the fleet.


Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
A1Hounslow West Stn - Heathrow Airport Central (non-stop)AV Hounslow
81(Shepherds Bush Grn - Brentford)- Hounslow - Slough StnAV HounslowSMS
82Hounslow - Hatton Cross AV HounslowSMS
110Twickenham Stn - Staines - Hounslow -CranfordAV HounslowSMS
111Hanworth - Hounslow - Cranford (-Kingston) AV HounslowSMS
116Staines - Hounslow (- Great West Road)AV HounslowSMS
257Hounslow - Beavers Farm EstateAV HounslowSMS

LS 58-437: standard buses

LT's problems with its Merlins and Swifts had not been solved, and were worsened by attempts to overhaul them. In December 1976 the Board authorised the next fifty Nationals as direct Swift replacements, and these were followed by further orders for delivery through to 1979. The first fifty went to Elmers End in June and Bromley in August to replace Swifts on routes 12A and 227 respectively.

Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
12ASelsdon - South Croydon - Croydon - Forest Hill - PeckhamED Elmers EndSMS
227Crystal Palace - Penge - Bromley - Chislehurst TB Bromley SMS

LS103 at Showbus99

Preserved LS103 at Duxford in September 1999.

Photo by Ian Smith. Click for larger version


Another 160 were ordered for 1977. They went to a variety of locations, including:

Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
117Brentford - Hounslow - Ashford - StainesAV HounslowRM
236Leytonstone - Finsbury Park (- Stroud Green (pks))D Dalston
T Leyton
SMS
289Thornton Heath - Elmers EndED Elmers EndSMS
268Golders Grn - Finchley Road StnW CricklewoodMB
H1Northwick Park - South HarrowHD Harrow WealdSMS
210Finsbury Park - Golders Green / Brent CrossMH Muswell Hill
HT Highgate
E3Ealing - ChiswickHL Hanwell
V Turnham Grn
P3Peckham - Peckham Rye circularPM PeckhamSMS
P5New Cross - Rotherhithe - PeckhamPM PeckhamSMS
248Romford North St - UpminsterRD Hornchurch
248AUpminster Stn - Corbets TeyRD Hornchurch
90Staines - RichmondFW Fulwell
254Loughton - South WoodfordL Loughton
108Stratford - Bow - Blackwall Tunnel - ElthamPR PoplarSMS

LS98 at Cobham Open Day 1999 LS98 at Cobham Open Day 1999

LS98, beautifully restored by the Kreisler family, at the Cobham Open Day, 1999
Photos by Ian Smith: click for larger versions.

Thirty ordered in 1978 were used to create two new routes (250, 255) at Loughton, replacing the old 254, and also to displace the last RFs. These were at Kingston for the 218 and 219, and had not previously been replaced because the inspection pits at Kingston were not amenable to Nationals and there were insufficient BLs. The solution was to reallocate the routes to nearby Norbiton, and Nationals replaced the RFs in March 1979.

Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
218Kingston - Esher - Hersham - Walton-on-Thames - Shepperton - StainesNB NorbitonRF
219Kingston - Esher - Hersham - Weybridge - Weybridge StnNB NorbitonRF
250Waltham Cross - Grange Hill L Loughton new
255 L Loughton new
235Theydon Bois - Leytonstone - Chingford Hatch T Leyton

Another 140 were ordered for delivery between May 1979 and January 1980, primarily to help with displacing the Fleetline DMS class. The process began at Poplar and Muswell Hill, where DMSs were replaced in May 79 on routes 244 and 173.

Bromley had a complete sweep of its DMS routes in September and October 1979, with Nationals taking over the 61, 126 and 138.

Holloway converted its 239 route in December.
Romford (North Street) took some to replace BLs on the 247 and 247B.
More SMSs were displaced from Uxbridge and new Nationals went back to the S2 at Dalston.

1979 summary:
DateNoRouteGaragenew typeex - type
5/79244Winchmore Hill - Southgate - Bounds Green - Muswell Hill Broadway - (Archway) MH Muswell HillLSDMS
5/79173 PR PoplarLSDMS
9/7961Bromley North Station - Bromley Garage - Orpington - Petts Wood - Chislehurst - Eltham TB BromleyLSDMS
10/79126Beckenham Junction - Park Langley - Bromley - Grove Park - Mottingham - Eltham TB BromleyLSDMS
10/79138Bromley North Station - Hayes - Coney HallTB BromleyLSDMS
12/79239Archway- Camden Town - Kings Cross - Islington - Moorgate - WaterlooHT HollowayLSDMS
247Brentwood - EppingNS North StreetLSBL
247BRomford - OngarNS North StreetLSBL
S2Clapton Pond - Bromley-by-Bow StnD DalstonLSMS

Service changes

LS103 at Showbus99 Once all the National 1s had arrived there were of course changes in allocation. Other new buses were also joining the fleet, such as the Titans and Metrobuses, and there were adjustments to make the best of the available fleet. Leyland National 2s also made their appearance from 1981 - but they have their own page.

Meanwhile Fulwell lost its Nationals from route 90 (displaced by Metrobuses). They went to Uxbridge in September 1980, for routes 98 and 204. More Nationals were replaced by Metrobuses at Hanwell in January 1981, and went to fill the gaps at Uxbridge.
LS103 at Showbus99 A new route 206 started from Leyton at the end of January, and Nationals also replaced RMs on route 230. This also led to their appearance on the N96 - the first night service single deckers.

On the debit side, Titans replaced LSs on the 247B and 248A at Hornchurch.

More Metrobuses replaced Nationals from Stamford Brook's route E3 during the spring, and the remainder of Hanwell's allocation.

This created a temporary surplus of Nationals, which went in July 1981 to Hornchurch for route 246, previously Titan-worked.

October saw a shift of LSs from Holloway, where they had briefly operated the 239, to Peckham for route 78 (previously MD). November saw Hornchurch's route 248 lost to Titans, with the Nationals going onto 248A, 252 and 256.

1980-1 summary:
DateNoRouteGaragenew typeex - type
9/8090Kew Gardens Stn - Richmond - Sunbury - Ashford - Staines FW FulwellMLS
9/8098Hounslow - Hayes Stn - Hillingdon Stn - Uxbridge Stn UX UxbridgeLSSMS
9/80204Hayes - Uxbridge Stn UX UxbridgeLSSMS
1/81206 T LeytonLSnew
1/81230Whipps Cross - T Leyton LSRM
1/81N96Waterloo Stn - Islington - Hackney - Lea Bridge - Leyton - Highams Park Stn T Leyton LSDMS
1/81247BRomford - Ongar RD Hornchurch TLS
1/81248AUpminster Stn - Corbets TeyRD Hornchurch TLS
1981 HL HanwellMLS
5/81E3Greenford - Hanwell - Northfields - Acton - Chiswick V Stamford BrookMLS
7/81246Hornchurch Stn - Harold Wood - Noak Hill (- Gidea Park Stn) RD HornchurchLST
10/81239Hampstead Heath - Kings Cross - Islington - Moorgate HT HollowayDMSLS
10/8178Shoreditch - Liverpool St Stn - Aldgate - Tower Bridge - Peckham - Dulwich PM PeckhamLSMD
11/81248Upminster - Upminster Stn - CranhamRD Hornchurch TLS
11/81248AUpminster Stn - Corbets TeyRD Hornchurch LST
11/81252South Hornchurch - Romford - Collier RowRD Hornchurch TLS
11/81256 RD Hornchurch TLS

LS1 showbus Early arrivals also needed overhaul. LS1 spent more than a year in Aldenham on a pilot overhaul, (May 79-August 80) while the process was perfected, followed by rather quicker overhauls of the rest of the first batch during 1980. Buses from later batches started onto the overhaul scheme from April 1981. LS1, back at Hounslow, became a show bus, with grey pod, grey roof and black skirt.

Bristol BLs felt the pinch in April 1982, when the 234A was converted at Croydon.

In September 1982 Loughton garage (L) became an all-National garage, operating routes 20/A, 167, 206, 250/A:


Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
234AStreatham Garage - WallingtonTC CroydonBL
20Walthamstow Central Stn - Leyton - Whipps Cross - Woodford Wells - Loughton Stn - Debden L Loughton T
20ALoughton - Epping St Margaret's Hospital L Loughton T
167Ilford Stn - Barkingside - Buckhurst Hill - Debden Broadway L Loughton
206 L Loughton
250Waltham Cross - Grange Hill L Loughton
250A L Loughton

Merton also received Nationals at the same time, for a number of routes, displacing Daimler Fleetlines, while over at Bromley the rural 146 route swapped its Bristol BLs for Nationals.

Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
57Kingston Stn - Raynes Pk - Wimbledon - Merton - Tooting Bdy - Streatham HillAL Merton
127Wallington - AL MertonDMS
152Mitcham - Merton - S. Wimbledon - Raynes Park - Tolworth - Hook - Hampton Court Stn - Feltham Stn AL MertonDMS
189Clapham Common - South Wimbledon - Raynes Park - Worcester Park Stn AL MertonDMS
146Bromley - Hayes - Keston - DowneTB BromleyBL

April 1983 saw a more sizeable change at Bromley, when the 261 converted from Routemasters.
Stockwell received some in place of Bristol BLs for the P4, which was usefully extended from Brockley Rise to Lewisham so that they could turn.

Route NoRouteGarageType Displaced
261Lewisham - Grove Park - Bromley - Petts Wood - OrpingtonTB BromleyRM
P4Brixton - Brockley Rise - LewishamSW StockwellBL

LT Jubilee

LS194 LT Jubillee livery The 1983 celebration of LT's Jubilee brought several non-standard liveries to individual Nationals. LS194 was repainted with white window surrounds and roof, black cab front, gold London Transport fleetnames and Jubilee emblems, and used in service from Croydon.
Harrow Weald (HD) painted its LS402 with gold window surrounds.

Docklands Clipper

Docklands Clipper At the end of 1983 six Nationals were repainted for the new D1 Docklands Clipper service between Mile End and the Isle of Dogs. The livery involved the addition of white stripes, upswept at the rear in the then current fashion. They started work from Poplar (PR) in January 1984.

Two National 1s were converted as Mobility Buses in 1985, with a Ratcliffe Lift installed in the exit doorway, and anchorages for wheelchairs. They joined the Mobility Bus network in the north and east, where a National 2 was already in operation. They operated from Leyton (T).

During 1984 Croydon and West Ham lost their allocations, but Poplar started using Nationals on new route 276. Catford's 181 was another new route. On the other hand, they disappeared from Peckham's circular 173 and the East End 278. New Titans made a substantial impact on Bromley's allocation when they started to displace the Nationals from the 261 route in October.

This was the start of a surplus of Nationals, increased in 1985 when Bromley's 138 switched from Nationals to Titans. But the changes were not all one way, or permanent: Peckham's route 70 became LS operated for a while in the autumn of 1985, but then reverted to Titan. Harrow Weald's route 209 was converted to Metrobus in November. The conversion of Bromley's B1, that had started as a BS route, from BL to LS made only a small dent in the rising surplus.

1984-5 summary:
DateNoRouteGaragenew typeex - type
10/84173Peckham - Nunhead - Peckham PM PeckhamTLS
10/84278Walthamstow Central Stn - Leyton - Maryland - V&A Docks T Leyton TLS
1984181 TL CatfordLSnew
1984276 PR PoplarLSnew
10/84261Lewisham - Grove Park - Bromley - Petts Wood - OrpingtonTB BromleyTLS
1985138Bromley North Stn - Hayes - Coney HallTB BromleyTLS
8/8570Greenwich Church - Deptford - Surrey Docks - Bermondsey - London Bridge Stn - Waterloo Stn PM PeckhamLST
11/85B1Bromley - Elmstead Woods - Eltham Church - KidbrookeTB BromleyLSBL
11/8570Greenwich Church - Deptford - Surrey Docks - Bermondsey - London Bridge Stn - Waterloo Stn PM PeckhamTLS
11/85209South Harrow - Pinner - Harrow Weald (- Northwick Park Stn) HD Harrow WealdMLS

LS5 at Depot42 1999 The first six, LS1-6, were due for overhaul again in 1985, but were withdrawn instead, and five of them sold.

LS5 looks rather battered after a second life working with British Airways as an airside vehicle. In October 1999 it was at Mike Nash's Depot 42.
Photo by Ian Smith. Click for larger version.

Many others soldiered on. A major blow to London's use of Nationals in the suburbs was deregulation and tendering in the outer areas, beyond the GLC Area. Loughton garage, a National-only garage, lost all its routes, including such old-London routes as the 20, mainly to Eastern National, but also to West's and Sampsons. Loughton garage closed in May 1986.
Forester Stored Nationals accumulated, more than 100 being in store in Auggust 1986. Six were converted with coach seating and single doors in 1986, for use on express service X99 between Basildon and Harlow, starting in August 1986. That experiment came to an end after six months and five of the dual-purpose vehicles were transferred to London Coaches and used on a contract for the Japanese School in East Acton, until 1989.

Part2: National 2s bus histories photo refs

Ian's Bus Stop LN, LNB SNB, SNC Greenways